Zalmen Nates http://www.jta.org/user/profile/64049 en-us zsilberman@washingtonjewishweek.com Copyright 2012 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 How stupid can we guet!!! This is a contagious desis.... were copping the talibans laws?. THE GOVERNMENBT should NOT sustain ANY religioous schools, WHUILE they DO not PLEDGE aliegance to THE ISRAEL STATWOOD.. and serve in the civil military service. LIBERMAN IS RIGHT !! jewdaism is about FREEDOM... (pesah) FREEDOM of THGOUGHT also !! Free ALBEDRIUM !! State is One thing and RELIGION is another,, mix them and then A NUKE comes out... its time to LEVEL with UNIVERSAL RIGHTS.. Thats OUR problem with the "COUSINS" they do not permit the USE of SELF CONCIENCE... there Death lovers.. Jews LOVE LIFE!! and FREEDOM !! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 How stupid can a Governor be?? He can comunicate from His own state USING internet.. direct line with GOD. Theyre EMULATING Islams Pprayers...and fanaticism inconcivable for a Western 8not to say USA9 citizen. NBo RAIN dance or climate change is a matteroDivinity.. has too many other PLANETS and consteñations too look over. What a MISHUGHAS: 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Seems that this RUSSIAN is THE ONLY one who HAS a solkution !!! Hes BRIGHT and his statment about Aliegeance to Israel to have CIVIL rights is a POSITIVE sane healthy SOLUTION... We have enough enemies in Israel (among Arabs and also our OWN haredim).. The only way out is Liberman solution... Arabs and Haredim who do not SERVE in Israel ARMY.. and pledge aliegance to THE STATE.. shouldn have POSTS as MK.. neither Voting Rights.. 8religion set aside) we claim Liberty of MIND and BELIEVE... thats the MAIN core of Jewdaism.. (LIBER ALBEDRIUM ) thats what Moshe took us FROM Slavery.. (MIND SLAVES !!!) Jew is one othing and ISRAELI is a NACIUONALITY !!! mix them and youll guet into the harshest discussions... Religion and Statwhood mixing is worse than a NUKE atomic bomb. I suggest Israel should IMPORT Juarez laws !!! Among people as with nations THE RIGHT of the OTHER shopuld be the maximum Law. !! (thats what our COUSINS DO NOT UNDERTSTAND whats OTHERNESS: !! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Shami and Hillell would have LAUGHED untill exahution on this Stupid Argument.. g-d is not supervizing our eatings... Its THE ATTITUDE who counts... This ISSUE is about MONEY fraudulent selling of a STAMPING. should jannukah lights be lighted from left to right or the opposite.. In this attitude Hillell and Shamai.. would have beenn ENEMIES untill DEATH !! exactly how are COUSINS the Sunnis and the Shiites.. what absurdity and Narrowminded Haredi- Fanatic outpost !. Stop Buissness like differences.. Kosher means CLEAN.. and clean us just that CLEEN not the Mishgihajs NORROWNESS. of MIND. And to make that into a PUBLIC (governmentall law is more stuopid... should GOIM interviene in what we eat?? ... Stop FANATICISM were becoming alike the Talibans . Stop IT.. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Again MIXING... Rabanim into Politics and economics is BUT a mistake. First Jews BELIVE once dead.. youre not anymore of this Earth... Ashes TO ashes. BUT if any cuestion in the other side ::: the only cuestion that could FIT is. " What have YOU done with YOURE GRANTED TIME" Religious Rabanim people BY THE WAY are NOT PRECISLY THE MOST HONEST OF HUMANS !! This MMardoff Made Buissness.. crooked as He is He will pay HERE the WHOLE package...NEVERMIND of the other .. WHO DOES GARANTIE there is ANOTHER??? BULLSHIT... Jewish religion is A CHANT TO LIFE HERE !!! whats left is BUT THE NAME:::: IJES!!!.. and to the 3rth generation even that is LOST: 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 As long as we do not realize that DIVERSITY of thought among JEWS ( 3 jews 5 opinions !! very carachteristic) ENRICH OURE CULTURE... And RELIGIOS Characters of different denomination DO HAVE A PLACE in AM- ISRAEl.. and oure RABANNIM inerfere in OUTMODISH definishon of Jewdaism.. were doomed. The Dispersion in Babilon lasted only 65 Years and it REVIEWED ALL oure Lithiurgy, concepts and standings....(after the destruction of the first temple) Isnt Israel TODAY SUFFICIENT TREMOR to DO what we have done on those times.. REVIEWING an UPTADITING oure FUNDAMENTALS and BRING THEM TO TODAYS REALITY.... Imposing oldtimes ..WITHOUT REALIZING TODAYS WORLD is retrgrade... DIFFERENCES ENRICH oure STANDIG enough fight on denominations.. AM ISRAEL IS BUT ONE FOLK... Let US BE RATIONAL to the XXI CENTURY developments.. not like the COUSINS living in ILO TEMPORI: 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 playing with words?? This Man recognizes that h CANT coprehend the meanning of the word TOLERANCE.... its exactly what defines Islam.... CANT THEY UNDERSTAND ITS THE ROOT OF HATE.. respect to THE OTHER !!! NO!!!! 4 them is KILL the INFIDELL. He goes like some Rabanim MIHTN Grober finguer !!! its like Talking top a DEAF...LOVE does NOT exist in QUPORAN... but Virgins and desires DO!! Have You ever imagined a Corpse going INTO paradise with HIS SEXUAL ORGANS and desires??? well thre are 70 virgins waiting to be defloured by them (They shure are waiting a long time... Yet still virgins !!! even that isnt COMPREHENDESD or understand for the CAPTIVES of ... You name it !! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 What does SOUND so "ourageous" to the Obama people like this man? Didnt the USA put in HOLD all the Japaneese descendants and related DURING the second world war.. just on SUSPICIOUS to be "enemies of the USA"... Then What strange Ideas of Liberman REQUESTING the oath of aliegance to ANY citizen of Israel?? does it sound strange that any Citizen MUST PLEADGE ALIGEANCE to His own country?.. Israel is the ONLY state that has VOTED ENEMIES into the Knesset !!! sounds logicall? To grant citicenship not to SUPOSED enemies (like the japanesse mentioned) but DECLARED enemies of the state?.. Double standards?.. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Copying "muslims" attitudes. Jews RESPECT the OTHERS rights...and sustain LIFE values.. Jews around the world CONVIVE with the other denoaminations and Right to belive or not to belive. Jews ARE PART of HUMANITY: and dont prozelitize... A CIVIL act of any COUNTRY that RESPECT the FREEDOM of worship, should be backed by ALL jews including Rabonim. We have to THANK the countries who DO RESPECT US: Rabonim ARE NOT the representatives of all Jews..they are CIVIL teachers, not PRIESTS as others religions. Paricipating and supporting a New administration in any RESPECTFULL country.. makes OURE lifes EASIER.. and does not have to do anything with RELIGION: We have to THANK governments who take Us in accoynt as normal citizens.., Bravo to the presence of Jews in the HOPE for PEACE and welfare of countries.. We ourselves make Us different or "aparthaided from the countries we live inn " specially if they RESPECT others believes. . 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 What a mishughas. Muslims sunni.shiite differences imported into jewdaism. Torah is KOSHER lmeadrim no matter where the rabi goes...he did not compromize any jewish feelings. Rabonim are NOT PRIESTS..the do not represent anything more that THEIR congragations... not Jewdaism... In A worls where we FIGHT for OTHERNESS rescogbition the sole assistence to a CIVIC.conpromize and rfeecogbition of THE others right to worship whatever they are entitled.. Its not i9mportant for religion but important FOT HUMANS RELATIONS:.. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Enough.. Any ISRAELI CITIZEN MUST pleadgea leadge to LOYALTY to ISRAEL.. or loose the citizenship...(like all other countries of the world) Citizenship and right to VOTE or elected must be among LOYAL CITIZENS... not enemies.covered or uncovered !! Now Not all Arabs are closed...this war is Iranian versus Egipt an Saudis interests.a religios -politicall-sociall diferences they dont guive a damn for the NON existing Palestinian state that has representatives in UNO eben beeing a terrorist entity. Please visit this interesting page in the web http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak; 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Another BIASED statment. Why in this world everithing Jews do, is more important of what GOES ON in say SAUDIArabia... where NO NON MUSLIM can visit Mecca even as a tourist, no church or sinagoge.can be buildt.. actualy RADICCAL RELIGIOUS APARTHAID in most Muslims lands.. In Israel there are all religions, colors,beliefs of PECEFFULL (hope) DECENT HUMAN BEEINGS, So the TALE i9s TO look over the shoulders OTHERD defects.. Yes. but the muslim position even DORES NOT recognize THE OTHER as simple as this.. The other as long as hes not a Muslim does NOT have the right TO EXIST: is there any difference?? 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 YES !!! iv been working on this MUCH needed theme... to balance all the Muslims.PROPAGANDA. Yes we haVE TO DO MORE TO HELP OURE hEROES... KEEP uP WITH THE job. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Kashrut means cleanliness!!! Every RABI wants to make a "$share" of the buissness... how about begginning to be as fanatics as our Islamic cousins!! Koshrut has becomed somthing else... Exageratioin of rules does not conduct Us to Am Israels unity. Its a way of making us dependant of RABONIM and people just like Madox....unethicall...and almost criminall. torah is not as STRICT as oure "orthodoxismm"... Now there is "some" rabonimm (Rab MAGUEN) who states that FISH AND MILK doesnt mix...That leaves oure Herring nout... what a mishugass... Jewdaism is about RESPECT of HUMAN LIFE.. and TO the other... thats whats make US differnt. a chant to life... THIS LIFE... not afterlife... Olahm Abah is an imported SYRIAN PERSIAN believe... Breishit says clearly "dust you are and Dust youll become... the time is now... 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 This kind of NEWS should be EXPORTED to the Arab Neighboring countries.. ans or to CNN, or Fix news.. The world should Know about it... and the main Focus is to CALL FOR Neigbors to REALIZE that Thats the way TO PEACE and wellbeeing. WE MUST demand from The "cousins" (the Muslim ).. to Review whats the porpouse of GODS (or Alah) Human GIVEN MIND and habilities.who distinct Us from Animals. Is it into realizing our Personnality.. and capabilities.. PERSONNALY guiven DIFFERENT to each one...... PAVLOVs Theory " isnt applied to Humans"...and Teached in the MADRASAS...Hate inspiration... Personalizing againt..conditioning NEGATES GODS guiven distinction among HUMAN beeings. LOVE humankind instead of HATE the other.. Thats HUMANS RIGHTS !!! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Ratzinger has THE RIGHT to do in the Roamn Curia wathever He wants.. We should RESPECT HIS viewpoints into HISA homereligion. Its True we do NOT like POPE PIUS XII to be HONORED... bit.. HES NOT the only one SAINT that HATED US.. We dont Have SAINTS...neither shouyld we SANTIFIE anybody exept ASHEM.. But we copy foreign methologies... Now we have a SEMI POPE. In Jrslm AMIR´s Cleaverness!!and a Jewish SEMI CURIA?? We honnor TEACHERS... not Saints... Rabonim are regular people as do Lawyers, or Architects..or Doctors...not Saints.or Moshiajim... And Pope does not have a VOTE to who becomes a Rabi.. or Semi Moshiaj .. so WE dont have to Widen the GAP between religions with such an PRIVATE theme.. They can Cannonize Fray Juan Torquemada... that wont CHANGE todays REALITY.. Jewdaism is about LIFE not about Afterlife !! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00