Miriam http://www.jta.org/user/profile/64355 en-us zsilberman@washingtonjewishweek.com Copyright 2012 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Based on what George explains above, assuredly those who support Zionism, be they Jew or evangelistic Christian-- they too must be identified as terrorists not militants... Since most Israelis serve the military & the govt consists of retired or reserve militiary; Zionist history is replete with massacres, bombings, false flags, ethnic cleansing, brutality, contraventions of International laws (Geneva / human rights violations) pre-emptive strikes, assassinations, kidnappings, forced confessions, forced collaborations, and of course imprisonment of children, mass nighttime roundups, routine extensions of administration detentions, incarcerations without charges ...--failure to present evidence, gagging of journalists, routine checkpoint abuse & humiliation. Certainly one would have to identify such gun totin' bomb dropping missile lobbing, self exonerating by this singularly powerful military Occupier --has gone well past militant to fascistic /terrorist occupiers, just as Stern, Irgun & other fascist admiring zionist foundation history informs us & daily news report inform. The Israeli crock pot points an accusing finger at the Occupied kettle and takes avenging collective punishment as fitting response to their never ending oppression. Enough!...enough killing, bloodshed and criminal brutality. Apologize..release the children...feed the hungry and remove the hundreds of thousands of zealot illegal colonialist setters from stolen Palestinian homes and land. Become what the solution you seek. God aint no real estate broker...he is Father of ALL his Children...they is no "lesser God"...we are all ONE family --to dispute this is to spit on halacha if you believe in it...and if you dont you have even less justification to claim "God's real estate gift". 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 to Steve Ariza....your comment tells more than you intended!?...saying that terrorist turned PM, Menachem Begin "ALLOWED" the CIA to begin peace to DESTABILIZE Israel...pretty bizarre portrait you've offered of the tail wagging the dog...AS IF the CIA could ever be accused of starting "peace" anywhere....especially in that soo de mock ratic tiny WMD state called israel...gotta go back further than Begin...and his terrorist peers.. what are you smoking steve? 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Mr Heilman....seems to me that a fairer less fractious and antagonizing way of dealing with upsetting news is rather than everyone getting in a line and shouting epithets at those who are normally reasonable such as the recent article in the Swedish paper...perhaps just maybe, if the Israeli govt would act more civilly initially and at least offer to investigate rather than CASTIGATE immediately, calling names, perhaps it would send a signal to the world Israel is not in a perpetual SNIT and aggressively reactionary to any/every report of criticism/concern. As today I received a link and then found another to 2 old and forgotten Israeli news reports about lots of hankypanky going on concerning organ harvesting or missing organs....and the other was in a british medical journal here they are: Abu Kabir Operating Organ Warehouse. By IsraelNationalNews.com http://www.allbusiness.com/middle-east/israel/102662-1.html and then: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1173179 and I do so AGREE with your headline "freedom of speech not freedom from criticism" just as Y. Harkarbi warned in his book years ago.. Enough of this thin-skinned argumentative over reactionary libeling of any /all criticisms, enough! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 JUST AS HARKARBI (former Minister of Defense Intel) warned in his book..one day the actions/behaviors of Isrealis who over use the epithet of 'anti-Semite" will come back to haunt all Jews because moral downward spiral was an inevitable result of occupation and segregation ...which we today call apartheid there..So as soon as the Swedish newspaper article published the article about organs missing, Isreal began immediate attack of "blood libel" screaming and epithets and worse. Perhaps a mossad hit squad will just have to go out and teach those "nazi swedes" ??? Just like was done with Count Folke Bernadotte in Jerusalem in 48? No, sir...it was just the other day when I had a very vague recall of an article I read in Isreali paper years ago....but could not remember details about "organs" missing...~!! so I wrote to several friends and today I received this : Abu Kabir Operating Organ Warehouse. By IsraelNationalNews.com http://www.allbusiness.com/middle-east/israel/102662-1.html " the Swedish government is that it should respond to Israel by demanding that an independent commission look into the allegation and that Israel (for a change) stop stymieing International investigations into human rights abuses. If they have nothing to hide, let independent commissions look into the allegations." wrote my friend in his response ! then I located the following link to a Medical journal from 2000....this was the story I could not remember clearly... http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1173179 So my friends excellent suggestion of canning the hostility, take some prozac perhaps? and let us get to the bottom of all these numerous horrid scandals both there and here in the US...if you got nothing to hide then why all the defensive tactics all the time??? 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 yah....Jerome....that 'kind of letter" is real important..! IMPORTANT TO REMIND US SENATORS that THEY should NOT act as if they were also part of OCCUPIED TERRITORY!...that they should sign that DISGUSTING propagandistic AIPAC written letter representing the interests of a foreign government and NOT THE BEST INTERESTS of the UNITED STATES nor her people. the only "CONCRETE" things that Israel does is build WALLS of CONCRETE, housing developments of CONCRETE and use bombs that penetrate concrete to kill civilians. SHONDA SHONDA SHONDA..!!! 70 senators signed it? what? they couldn't pay ALL of them? oh, forgot the crooked MAMZEHS like Madoff shorted them...couldn't do 'em all....or PERHAPS there are some with BACKBONE..who remember who they work for? 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 little cheryl is so full of hate she cannot disagree without being obnoxious /ugly. What Van Roth has said is thoughtful and legitimate..anytime anyone with a conscience who chooses to read and think independent of the Lobby, DARES question/criticise the so-called 'democratic' apartheid govt of Israel..they are immediately identified by the cheryls of the internet to as antisemites or self hating...yah, like Axelrod, Emanuel and other US govt officials. So UNUSED to being able to BLOCK and SILENCE US govt from criticism in effect the cheryls of the internet (paid shills) are going to ensure that 98% of the world LOATHES the lying, criminal, racist 'leadership' of Nothingyahoo and LIEberman to further destroy everything intheir path before ever admitting they are GANIFFS, MUMZEHS and THUGS..there is no Halachik obedience--the "light of the nations" has been living in DARKNESS for so long they've forgotten how to operate legitimately and in the open...VIVA MARY ROBINSON and all the other honorable leaders of conscience, integrity and humanity. Viva Robinson...viva JUSTICE! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 and WHY lois freeh would you now post a list of 'crimes ' committed by FBI agents posted in sandiego.com..or dallas.. place where ethical, moral and legal scumminess has been more than adequately represented for decades.. why go after the Feds at this moment..? cops are hardly on the same level as so called 'clergy-rabbis-orthodox men of the cloth' who've been arrested over time for numerous crimes against their own children,families, communities for generations.. Is it now anti-semitic in your eyes to hold everyone to account including those who think themselves above the law like the money laundering criminal rabbis? we are all supposed to be treated equally before the law...then there's the higher law.that will mete out apt punishment for all these conniving ganiffs and mumzehs... 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 thanks to PHIL WEISS here's a handy dandy quote about those illegal settlements..: Jeffrey Goldberg, writing on his blog last November, when Rahm Emanuel was appointed: "Rahm, precisely because he’s a lover of Israel, will not have much patience with Israeli excuse-making. So when the next prime minister tells President Obama that as much as he’d love to, he can’t dismantle the Neve Manyak settlement outpost, or whichever outpost needs dismantling, because of a) domestic politics; b) security concerns; or c) the Bible, Rahm will call out such nonsense, and it will be very hard for right-wing Israelis to come back and accuse him of being a self-hating Jew.”. ya think?? 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 You asked 'who asked America its opinion anyway?"?????? REALLY? well there is a PRIME reason that Americans should INSIST that not one more US tax dollar is foolishly donated to subsidize those ILLEGAL settlements on STOLEN lands...what part of 'thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods? thou shalt not kill "? END US tax payer BILLIONS to support Israeli Welfare state's Apartheid .! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 toda, Ari!...this once again clearly demonstrates what APARTHEID is about...discriminatory "judiciary" and policing..which claims to pursue 'terrorists' UNLESS it is their own fanatical freakazoids murderers like Zeev Braude who took is IDF issued weapon and backpack of ammo to kill unknown civilians in the midst of Shefr'amra city--composed of Druze, Muslim and Christian Arabs who hold secondclass "citizenship" inside the Greedline...when citizens reacted to his terrorist violence of his murder and wounding of dozens of citizens, a woman grabbed the gun and other stopped him, not the police who did nothing except make life worse for Arab civilians..DOUBLE STANDARDS and JIM CROW laws at best in that so-called "de-mock-racy'...end the HYPOCRISY...FREE PALESTINE at last...end the apartheid and the occupation. End the illegal settlements...Stand up and be counted for JUSTICE/Tzedehk now !/miriam 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 OMG! the "speech" of SG Moon!! Anyone who follows the NEWS knows that votes usually line up with the United States, Micronesia, Nauru and Israel' on one side, versus the rest of the planet on the other. SG Moon would only have spoken such truth in his dreams-- or should I say "nightmares"...That spoof was SO well done that all I can do is offer thanks to Mr Felton for having pulled it off. No wonder certain folks are plutzing! They've been outted AND out-witted! Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. thus far have been the only ones who dared satirize the M/E due to the 'thought police". My yiddische Mama taught me that "many a Truth is told in jest"...so thanks Ben for investigating this meshugana irony. delicious! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 the only "reverting" for Mrs Clinton was when she became a New York Senator and thus did her job there representing what the concensus apparently was that elected her...Larry...that is called "representative" government. Now her job is NOT representing New York or those constituents who have a particular POV ...She is holding a position that represents the PRESIDENT of the UNITED States...not one state...and in that capacity she is obliged to thus reflect what the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WHO ELECTED PRESIDENT OBAMA...a man of considerable intellect, ability, wisdom and understanding of the CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION that swore to uphold and defend. WHAT SERVES THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA and her best interests are what his task requires, Mrs Clinton is fulfilling her job requirements under Pres Obama. If you are AMERICAN then why isn't your first thought what is BEST for THIS country not a foreign govt.? 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Netanyahoo came to DC having promised his electorate that he would pursue US support for pre-emptive first strike support if not partnership in bombing Iran...Now THERE'S an offer to be rejected...As for telling Israel to stop the illegal settlements...well, it's been said and done before many many times..to deaf ears...unwilling ears.. There is no way to make 'peace' if one's actual agenda is to continue law breaking and bellicosity whilst wearing a diplomats hat. Dont put the cart before the donkey...acknowledge Palestine and its suffering & their right to soverignty on the last 10% of the 22% of the 45% of original partition...Recognize, end the occupation, tear down that "Temporary" wall (as Sharon named it)--thus show intention and good faith instead of "amelek here, amelek there, everywhere amelek" Time to look in the mirror...and end the misery for both peoples... 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Dayton's idea to train (more) 'KAPOS' to (euphemistically) "maintain quiet in the West Bank" should sicken all believers in Tzedekh..justice! US Tax dollars are better BURNED than used to train/arm Occupied men to visit brutality on their W.B. brothers for the Israeli military occupation.. Such 'choices' which force collaboration with their oppressors is Pathological. When oppressed become guard dogs FOR their occupiers they become KAPOS! According to Jewish Virtual Library, " historians viewed such actions as a form of complicity.-after the war, prosecution of Kapos as war criminals, particularly those who were Jewish, created an ethical dilemma which continues to this day." Those who've forgotten past history lessons are repeating them, ie, nazi crimes. Remember the 'conscience' of Israel Prof Yeshayahu Liebowitz -one of the earliest Israelis to use the term "judeo nazis" for good reason! . Stop this madness ! End the occupation!. Stop building illegal settlements on Stolen lands. There is NO military solution to these legal, ethical, moral & spiritual crises of Isreali occupation. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 hey sallai ----everyone is not as physically perfect as you might claim, but Silverman's wit and intellect more than compensate for childish nasty criticism of her 30 something figure. Besides, liposuction can fix thighs but INNER beauty cannot be bought...Sara has that too, in spades. (& she can spell too)... Mazel tov! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 no Sallai....there has been NO funding....only a 'promise'-- Months ago...to provide $900 Bln to rebuild the ennormous damage to infrastructure, homes, office buildings in that densely populated 6x22 mile gaza strip. I still wonder why the world community raises money to rebuild what Israel has destroyed, when by law GENEVA CONVENTION REQUIRES that damage must be repaired by the Occupying govt not tax payers elsewhere around the globe. 1.4 million continue to live in debris ridden misery. whilst IAF continues aerial assault dropping bombs near newly tented refugee camps around Rafah. The BEST prevention is to make peace --starting with NO MORE LAND THEFT and no more illegal colonial settlements in the WB and East Jerusalem. (remember "Thou shalt not Steal...covet thy neighbors goods" ??). The promised money was NEVER offered directly to GAZA but to that unelected (de jure president ) Abbas (whose WB term expired Jan 06 )..Instead his son gets lucrative rebuilding contracts in the millions..Nepotism is alive and well ..and since this last Israeli war of choice on ONLY ONE CEMENT truck has gotten into Gaza.--any bet that truck belongs to Abbas' boy? All US money goes through Abbas. US govt continues to supports faux leadership & puppet govts only..and then wonders why resistence persists. Global promises of $5.2 billion in reconstruction/rebuilding, BYPASSING the only democratically legitimate non corrupt elected leadership..how long would you accept such duplicity and manipulation? 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 cant help but wonder at all the cordiality ...that imprisoned Felon Abramoff really like academy award winning actor Kevin Spacey, and charmed him in 'open discussion'...fascinating!...cant help but wonder who will represent any of the indigenous native americans who were ripped off left and right...or perhaps the film glorifying another ponzi schemer criminal wont bother telling the whole story about the collusion of DeLay, reorganizing the precincts of Texas to ensure a GOP 'victory' and getting around various Tribal protections to rip them off...and laugh about it later...Jack Abramoff--charming? ask the Tigua, Couchatta, Choctaw, and others.. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/4698 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Interesting....that each comment infers 'surprise' at the columnist's POV. Why would ANYONE be surprised/shocked that a 'rabbi' whose sect 'overcame' their initial rejection of a zionist state once they were guaranteed political power in Israel? His perverse criticism of Sully the Pilot whilst admiration for Madoff should NOT be considered an April Fool...rather this is typical for the 'wheeler dealers' of alleged 'orthodoxy'.This is the sect that looks down its nose at Reform &even;Conservative Judaistic legalities-as for Madoff? had he not declared himself a criminal at the outset then his "victims" would not be able to file with SIPC to RECLAIM their large losses (thanx taxpayers). Look it up..he admitted it immediately to enable such claimants. Noble of Madoff? he was a big supporter of Yeshiva..What lies beneath this seeming innocuous pat on the back for the Criminal Madoff? AND Shafran's pals SUPPORT the violent illegal settlers in Palestine. Selective and biased alliances arise from POLITICS not some esoteric Talmudic interpretation..take the veils from your eyes folks~!!!! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 I'm verklempt!..just all choked up about Steve Rosen and his colleague Weissman being under indictment for Espionage ..for transferring US Classified information to a foreign govt ...As an American I am disgusted at this treasonous behavior. The ONLY proper response is to require that aipac must be registered as agent for FOREIGN GOVT. Rosen is now suing for defamation of "his character"..that HE a long time well paid hired gun for The Lobby claims to have a character is a joke. He is a traitor to America, just like Pollard is. However, in spite of the fact that he should be in prison like his co-conspirator federal employee Larry Franklin (serving 12 yrs for same) who wore a wire for the FBI...IN SPITE of the fact that he is charged with espionage..HE is the guy who challenged Chaz Freeman's nomination to NIC. What a sense of humour somebody has...LOL... As for Liz Berney...just shows to go ya..ANY fool can run for congress. As Mark Twain once wrote: "Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself.” 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 WHAT IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACTUAL? what does that say about your support for bombing OCCUPIED STARVING MASSES? OY VEY!! those numbers HAVE to be wrong sez "hasbara tamar" .. zionist calls for expulsion (nicer to say 'transfer') and extermination, carpet bombing & "Rabbis" who call for "no mercy" after decades of abusive racist treatment -- the Perpetual victims are now the perpetual victimizers..!!! What would we think of ourselves IF we maybe kinda sorta admitted that F16s, apache tank missiles, DIME bombs, flechette bomblets, and such by the FOURTH MIGHTIEST ARMY in a nonstop 3 week "campaign" in the MOST densely populated place on the globe, with no bomb shelters ONLY targeted/mutilated/killed 'RESISTENCE FIGHTERS? the people there are ALL targets because they are Palestinian. You know? sub-human cockroaches as you call them. But RESISTENCE to this dastardly evil, illegal and wicked OCCUPATION is NORMAL. do you only make exception for jews?..like resistence fighters in Warsaw who were legitimately serving their community in fighting their nazis? why do you pathetic war mongers continually DENY that YOU are GOOD GERMANS in these times? YOU who cheer for the deaths of the OCCUPIED STARVED 3Times REFUGEES on theIr OWN LAND...want to EXTERMINATE and EXPEL ( tamar sez TRANSFER..so nice..LOL. tamar must have studied Goebbels !!) 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 gevaldt!...vey ismeer...what a LOAD. GIVE JEWS a 'valentines day card'?? what? This is the newest incarnation of MESHUGENNA.! --NO.. PSYCHOTIC thinking. This is as sensible as the LILTING chorus of "SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER AND GERMANY" sung as a 'humorous' musical tribute to those Nazis. Trivializing the Genocidal aerial bombing (always gets a big laugh) of the largest concentration camp in the world? Major theft of billions from working stiffs by a smarmy mumzah criminal like Madoff and pals? NO! what is NEEDED ( not greeting cards but large, loud and very public demonstrations of Jews and everybody else-- demanding war crimes indictments/prosecutions of barbaric Israeli apartheid government - Olmert/Livni's Kadima & Lieberman's savage Beiteinu racial incitements, along with their cold thuggish pals, Bush /cheney- war criminals all. Not Valentine's Day--rather "Day of the Dead Memorials..wearing of black, covered mirrors..sitting shiva for the 1330 dead and for the entire concept of Tzedehk...jewish justice... to never again hear the words NEVER AGAIN again unless it is INCLUSIVE..for the human family or what is left of it. Shonda shonda shonda.... 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 "Israeli people should be very happy about the democratic example they have set for the world"...... Sho'nuff....if you liked apartheid you ought to love that feisty little de mock racy...bombing caged occupied civilians...Remember Nuremberg? remember Geneva Conventions which came about because of ww2? There is NO military solution to RESISTANCE against land theft and occupation...it must end... Remember Zionist terrorism against the Mandate Brits? the bombings and assasinations? Stern gang fascists? remember the history..its all been done before including racist ethnic cleansing.. Soon the 'facts on the ground' will preclude a 2 state..and then only a 1 state solution will remain...oh oh...demographic threat wont allow a JEWISH DEMOCRACY...but rather 1 man 1 vote.. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 Ze'ev Jabotinsky, a regular brown shirt kinda guy..such a friend/fan of Benito Mussolini....what a guy!!... 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 What a timely PR coup for Israel ! At a time when Americans see little of the region[ except for those depressing pix of pulverized rubble and Gaza dead ] Sports Illustrated hits the stands with an Israeli hottie. Brilliant!. But SI isn't the first --only the latest-- to 'seize the opportunity'. Who could forget the uproar when MAXIM (the gent's version of Playboy) published a spread of sexy pinup gals of the IDF in and out of uniform-- just after the bombing of Lebanon/ 06..How clever to select use cute blondes [and even some brunettes] mostly out of their IDF khakis - to repackage US/Israeli alliance - post combat? Methinks it makes militarism look so sexy! Using Israeli females in softcore pix to remind everyone how much we're alike. I couldn't help wonder how Leni Riefenstahl might have managed a Nazi swimsuit issue.. "Seductive girls of the Reich" to humanize the macho Wehrmacht/SS --prior to war crimes trials of course. Who knew the face of death could look so sexy? Props? just an 'eeny weeny' and a 'come hither smile'. Genocide never looked so benign. i'm faklempt! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 this is STUNNING !!.... in the face of the genocidal attacks on Gaza by F16s bombing densely populated urban areas, apache 'copters firing anti TANK missiles into highrises..starvation, blockading this CAGED people suffering collective punishment..Now,the ARREST of this well informed man who dared express NATURAL outrage and anger at the military actions is Stunning!. WHERE is the outrage for the RACIST (kahanist) Beiteinu Avigdor Lieberman and Netanyahu who call for more wars, as quoted in Israeli media along with the EXTERMINATION by NUCLEAR BOMBING Palestinians??? Why is LIEBERMAN not in prison? Why is being OPENLY racist and calling for genocide of Palestinians not being prosecuted by the thought/speech police??? What happened to TZEDEHK or is that merely a QUAINT / OBSOLUTE Jewish proscription? Perhaps incitement is the INTENT??? more anger leads to more hatred and less security which then leads to more aggressive Military action and so the vicious cycle contines? How is calling for the death to Arabs anything but anti Semitic? oh, I forgot...only Jews are 'semites'..and in need of security and protection. In Israel and whereever zionists exist, Palestinians are NOT considered human but rather they have (from time immemorial) been referred to as 'sub human'/animals/cockroaches" all because fought foreign settlers...just like the "Heathen" American Indian did.. Prick them, do they not bleed? what evil logic lives in racist zionists? soon the entire world will need to be arrested for "thinking" and speaking out about this asymmetry. Orwell and Kafka would be stunned by these 'victims' who cannot stop persecuting...Victim has become Victimizer..as all students of psychology have learned. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 terribly tragic whenever/whereever violence erupts...however, to label this anti Semitic is nonsense...this is a DIRECT response to the violence that hte world witnessed being foisted on Gazans. Again. When the mighty IDF massacres more than one thousand people who have no escape,no protection, no army, no air force but are bombed . Again. with both illegal and horrifc weapons, there is nothing that any jew should be pleased about. yet there was no immediate chorus of rejection of such violence. The hateful graffiti written in Gazan homes, the slaughter of the zoo animals, the bombing itself in the most DENSELY populated place on earth where there was NO escape and keeping exits locked demands an outcry of horror and rejection. Rabbis who praise heavily armed soldiers to KILL KILL KILL do not deserve respect. they are war crminials or we learned NOTHING from Nuremberg and WW2. Expect that there will be very negative reactions when good people do NOTHING and mediocre people applaud such genocidal attacks. shame shame shame! 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 as Dina Kraft wrote: "Among those ..hooked on the show is Moran Haim, 25-year-old manicurist from Tel Aviv suburb.who says the show's focus on Ashkenazi-Sephardic tensions reflect the "real" Israel. She states: "It's the main issue in this country, not Palestinians versus Israelis." OY~ words of wisdom from the manicurist...No acknowledgement that it's easier to use Jewish Arabs as "proxies" now when saying "subhuman cockroaches" are Palestinian or Arab. reflecting good old fashioned Israeli bigotry. It's expedient to use Sephardim as stand-ins these days. Such progress!...Next thing writers like Kraft might start calling nuclear father Peres or Breaking bones author Rabin "Statesmen" --ya think?. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00 that these two "Ladies" think their churlish comments represent anything but evil ..need only to look within to learn what "hate mongers' look like...the next time they whine about hateful or mean people who say anti semitic things....Webster's should list your names next to evil. 2012-02-09T;22:54:00-05:00