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Einstein Tells How Zionism Meets Internationalism

July 11, 1929
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How Dr. Albert Einstein reconciles his Zionism with his internationalism is described in an interview granted to Philip A. Adler of Detroit, who cabled his interview to the “Detroit News” as follows:

“What do you think about the nationalistic tendencies which are now sweeping the world?”

“Nationalism is the curse of mankind,” Dr. Einstein replied.

“But you yourself are a nationalist?”

“Who, I?”

“Yes. you are a Zionist?”

“Ach, ja. But this is quite different. The nationalism of many a modern state stands for an extension of its power through territorial aggrandizement and through the subjectivity of smaller nationalities. Zionism is the opposition to that force. It is a defensive nationalism. I mean not only Zionism but all the movements for independence and self determination by oppressed peoples.

“Let me illustrate. I am a pacifist. I am opposed to the use of force. But I know that some lawless elements will use force, so I, a pacifist, consent to arm certain people in order to oppose the lawlessness of others.

“Let me formulate it for you this way. Because of the nationalistic tendencies of the powers opposed to me I am compelled to adapt a protective nationalism.”

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